"A definition is the start of an argument, not the end of one." - Neil Postman
"I said what I said. I did not say what I did not say." - Alfred Korzybski answering his critics who were confused about his new, non-Aristotelian system
"I said what I said. I did not say what I did not say." - Alfred Korzybski answering his critics who were confused about his new, non-Aristotelian system
Recently, I engaged in a verbal slanging match with an acquaintance of mine over a post on her blog. The post, which I will not repeat, I perceived to be grossly insensitive in a time of crisis. It soon became clear to me that in the heat of my heightened emotions, I had almost forgotten the teachings of GS; that words have no true meaning.
As Hayakawa explains:
During the course of many disagreements, many people may accuse or label the others' assertions as false, condescending, inflammatory etc., etc., while the other asserts the opposite. When arguing with words over words, both participants in the discussion can be right and wrong and neither simultaneously. (Especially when weaker minds yield to the dreaded ad hominem attack.) In a vacuum, both may walk away from the argument with "a win" if they believe their argument to be "true." Put spectators in front of them, and the person with the best display of rhetoric, the one who can convince the audience of their "correctness" will emerge the victor.
Writing in my blog earlier last year:
I can only say what I say and not say what I do not, but depending on what is said, I cannot tell you what it says. How one feels and one thinks after I have said it is up to them.
References:
Introducing Neuro-Linguistic Programming, Joseph O'Connor and John Seymour, Element Publishing, 2002.
Language in Thought and Action: Fourth Edition, Samuel I. Hayakawa and Alan R. Hayakawa, Harvest, 1990
Science and Sanity: An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General Semantics, Alfred Korzybski, Institute of General Semantics, 1994, 5th edition.
As Hayakawa explains:
"Anyone who has even given thought to the meanings of words are always shifting and changing in meaning...therefore some people believe we ought to agree on one meaning for each word and use it only with that meaning...it may occur to them was simply cannot make people agree in this way. [...] Such an impasse is avoided when we start with a new premise altogether - one of the premises upon which modern linguistic thought is based: namely, that no word ever has exactly the same meaning twice."
During the course of many disagreements, many people may accuse or label the others' assertions as false, condescending, inflammatory etc., etc., while the other asserts the opposite. When arguing with words over words, both participants in the discussion can be right and wrong and neither simultaneously. (Especially when weaker minds yield to the dreaded ad hominem attack.) In a vacuum, both may walk away from the argument with "a win" if they believe their argument to be "true." Put spectators in front of them, and the person with the best display of rhetoric, the one who can convince the audience of their "correctness" will emerge the victor.
But it may irk some people to realize they can never be 100% right. It will further upset them to acknowledge that their words, no matter how well intentioned, once spoken or written, are literally out of the "mind" of the authors and are left to be evaluated by the eyes of the perceiver. Knowing first hand how one perception of text can be misinterpreted and condemned even though the intent and content was not the interpretation it had been given, more care or a willingness to accept the malleability and amorphous nature of words may lead to less misunderstandings in the future.
Writing in my blog earlier last year:
"As some of you already know, the territory (reality, etc.) is merely a space in which we project our beliefs and base our semantic reactions.Some may see this as an extension of my perceived "personal vendetta" against the author of the post in question, with whom I have had a falling out. While I may bleat to the heavens and say it is not true and I harbor no ill will toward the person and only disagreeing with what she said, it quickly seems nonsensical to refute something I cannot definitively prove and hope that rational thinking will prevail.
Therefore, my inference that an acquaintance of mine stopped dead in their tracks to avoid me [at a recent party] due to fear, hatred or courtesy is as unverifiable as the inferences that they may make about me."
I can only say what I say and not say what I do not, but depending on what is said, I cannot tell you what it says. How one feels and one thinks after I have said it is up to them.
References:
Introducing Neuro-Linguistic Programming, Joseph O'Connor and John Seymour, Element Publishing, 2002.
Language in Thought and Action: Fourth Edition, Samuel I. Hayakawa and Alan R. Hayakawa, Harvest, 1990
Science and Sanity: An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General Semantics, Alfred Korzybski, Institute of General Semantics, 1994, 5th edition.
14 comments:
cooked like a fool
All semantics and interpretation aside, there is one true message in the following words I am about to say (and it's easy to interpret, because the superficial face value interpretation of the following is the intended interpretation):
You need to get out more. Get more of a life. Stop dwelling so much on fuckin' words. The ability to string a logical chain of words in a coherent and fluent matter does not mean you're a smart cookie.
I'm sorry, but when was the last time someone sat you down to genuinely praise the wonders of your mind? Perhaps there's a reason for that?
Less wank, Thomas, more living.
And, answer me this (not because I think your answer will shed light on the matter, but, because I'm curious to know how you'll answer this):
Recently I bumped into a friend, we chatted and bummed and browsed together in the shop we found each other in. As we parted ways, we asked me what I was going to do for the rest of the day, and I said, "I'm going to meet up with a friend." She said, "who?" And I said, "oh, just Erin." (She has a terrible hump on her back and has a raspy lisp, but otherwise makes for decent conversation when she braves the outside world)
My friend cracked the shits with me because I said, "just Erin." She accused me of being rude or implying that my friend wasn't worthy or valuable, or that I was looking down at her or something when I used the word, "just." I protested and said that I didn't mean anything negative by it, and it was just a word. Plus, everyone knows how I feel about my friends, so someone who accuses me of being anything but blunt and honest with my intent and feelings towards others is kidding themselves. She did not agree or see reason, and was not impressed with my use of the word.
I maintain I've done nothing wrong, as my intent was never to be rude. It was just, quite simply, two words. Nothing more, nothing else.
What say you?
I'm not going to disagree with your friend, because it does sound a little flippant saying that, but it doesn't mean it was your intent to say that.
And to be frank, just because I spend 10 minutes of my day writing a blog does not mean I sit at home thinking about words and their meanings. I have friends, I have hobbies, I have activities and things to do. I also look for a job most of the time.
Its easy to pontificate with the evidence at hand, but with all due respect, you don't know me beyond what I write on this page.
Its easy to pontificate with the evidence at hand, but with all due respect, you don't know me beyond what I write on this page.
NO! WRONG. "It's" not "Its" !
APOSTROPHE.
Also: totally had to look up "ptontificate" on my good friend dictionary.com. Why use such a fancy word when it could be said more simply, and still retain the point?
But you are right. I guess I don't know you beyond the words you write. So I guess everything I have said is no more relevant than your use of, "pontificate."
Aye, I cannot comment or draw conclusions based on what little I gather from the horse's mouth.
Also:
And to be frank, just because I spend 10 minutes of my day writing a blog does not mean I sit at home thinking about words and their meanings.
Yay! That's more like it. Nothing says, "fuck semantics and the meaning of words," like the use of names (Frank) in a colloquial sense to casually imply blunt honesty. Oh I like it.
You defend yourself against my words, but I know you're taking notes. I know...
Oops. So my excited fingers added an additional T to the that fancy word you used. It would be embarrassing, but, even I make mistakes. To judge one person on such an indiscretion would be criminal.
I believe in you, Thomas.
But I don't believe in faeries, so don't even try to convince me otherwise, ok?!
Can you please tell me some gossip? Make a new post already. Something rich with juicy gossip and scandal and intrigue.
I DEMAND IT.
Please don't hate me. =(
Oh, and also: Happy Valentine's Day. ;)
I'd be your Valentine, y'know, if you wanted to...
I'm flattered Stephen, but I've already got a valentine. And she's awesome. :D
WHO IS SHE?!
I thought you and me established that women are the devil.
Bros before hos!
You won't judge me because I have no Valentine this year? =(
Eight days! EIGHT days!
This is how long I have waited, and still nothing new.
So I take it upon myself to publish Crushtor.net's next exciting blog:
(Written by Stephen)
Relics of a Former Life; o metal how you win my soul
I was trawling my favourite site, Harm.us, when I realised that Death Metal Seventy-X have released their latest album, "On the Windswept Fret of Yesterday." How did I not know about this? Was I perhaps too distracted by other things to notice?
I question the trend in the music scene when such a fantastic band can release such an underappreciated album and go on unnoticed for so long. I know it's early days, but this one is definitely a serious contender for the Vinyl Award come the end of the year.
C'mon, Rudd, I'm still waiting on my payout. But then again, aren't we all? And then I got to thinking: the last time I was waiting this long for something owed to me, I was horribly disappointed. I remember with an idle tear how every direction I turn holds a disappointment to me. I will fight on, though: I will find decency in people one day. I will not give up.
Operation America is still very much happening, but with no departure date in sight, I grow increasingly annoyed at the general inabilities of life. I am slowly losing my faith in humanity. But Death Metal Seventy-X keeps me company.
Oh god, that was actually really really mean of me, I think.
=(
I was just trying to be funny, but I think that came off too self-depricating or mean. I attempted satire, not mockery.
I admire the words you make, so I tried to copy them. One day I'll get there.
Haha see Stephen, you don't me to write my blogs. You're doing a bang up job on your own! :D
Wow, I never took you for a racist... :|
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